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X Mary
Lousy T-Shirt Corp
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.11.26 12:23:00 -
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A lot of people talk about battlecruiser balancing in pvp but in my opinion it's mostly a cost issue.
If you only look at hull costs there's a nice progression in cost from cruiser to battlecruiser to battleship.
A battlecruiser costs about 3 times as much as a cruiser and a battleship 2-3 times as much as a battlecruiser after insurance.
Then you start factoring in rigs and that Battlecruiser is not even twice as expensive more like 1,5 as a cruiser and the battleship becomes 6-7 times as expensive as the battlecruiser.
So nobobody flies cruisers because for just a bit more you have a boat that will perform a lot better and only people with large wallets fly battleships in pvp.
My solution to this is to give battlecruiser and then mostly the tech 2 type of battlecruiser a mix of large and medium rig slots.
Something like 2 large and 1 medium or 2 medium and one large. This way you would have the cost progression from cruiser-battlecruiser-battleship back and you see both more tech1 cruisers and tech1 battleships on the field.
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X Mary
Lousy T-Shirt Corp
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.11.26 12:57:00 -
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Buzzmong wrote:Besides, ISK value isn't a balancing factor in Eve. Say what? Everything in Eve is about isk, and if you take in account total cost of a loss, then especially Tier 2 battlecruisers are massively underpriced compared to the performance they give.
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X Mary
Lousy T-Shirt Corp
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.11.26 13:50:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Everything in eve is about fun. ISK is a necessity.
Why do you want to raise the cost of PVP arbitrarily? I don't see how you can justify it. Because there's always a movement to bang for your buck and in that aspect battlecruisers get way more then other ships causing them to be overrepresented. Cruisers and battleships would have more uses if this disparity of cost was fixed.
Alternatively give cruisers small rigs and battleships medium rigs if you're concerned about making fun more expensive. This will lead to more diversity and I think that's a good thing.
Nalha Saldana wrote:Yea BCs should totally use rigs that cost almost as much as the hull each.. Wait, no. Why not? If I fit my armageddon the rigs ARE just as expensive as the hull. Why for that ship it's ok and for a BC is not? |
X Mary
Lousy T-Shirt Corp
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.11.27 00:13:00 -
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Tamiya Sarossa wrote:Rig prices are not uniform, thus this is not a valid balancing discussion. My BS's are often fit witih weapon rigs which are cheaper than the BC level buffer rigs I typically use - this makes my BS's cost about on par with my BC's, ergo BC's should clear be cheaper, rite? If rigs are so cheap it doesn't matter then this change wouldn't hurt anyone. If however rigprices are a big factor in deciding what ship to field then this change is also valid. Going by your argument, there's no reason not to implement this. |
X Mary
Lousy T-Shirt Corp
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.11.27 03:17:00 -
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Arthur Frayn wrote:Small rigs: Frigates, Destroyers
Medium rigs: Cruisers, Battlecruisers
Large rigs: Battleships, Capital Ships
Op needs to think before posting.
OP thought and came to the conclusion this list is bad. |
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